Nazareth Catholic Parish

Grovedale, Torquay and Anglesea

What does a Synodal church look like in our parish???

Having made it this far - and having read the articles and watched the videos - you may have a clearer understanding of this Plenary Council and the concept of a Synodal Church. But...on the other hand you may still need some further explanations or other questions may have arisen.
 
If you have questions or queries, thoughts or ideas, comments or critique  please use the Live Forms (below to the left) and share them. This is the beginning of a truly synodal church where each member shares their thoughts and listens attentively.

Our First Parish Meeting - We're Under Way!

Thirty four parishioners came to our first meeting to explore what might be important for the 2020 Plenary Council to address and hear what we know to date about how it will proceed. 

Both Fr Linh and members of the convening group emphasised that our engagement calls us into a difficult but rewarding process of discernment. A number of people articulated a measure of scepticism about the possibility of good outcomes from that process. In the end, all seemed to agree that it is worth a “go” and, if nothing else, our personal learnings will be sufficient reward. 

The role of a Plenary Council, its structure, its agenda setting and its participants were described. This information is reproduced here.  But the key emphasis was on the fact that our participation in the consultation and discernment processes will be crucial to any success of the Council. 

Several people spoke to the role of women in the Church from a number of points of view. A common theme related to women in decision-making roles. Also noted was the difficulty for some women, some religious for example, of just being heard. This will clearly be an issue in other parishes too and hopefully, the listening, hearing and discerning in the Plenary Council processes will lead to significant change. 

The matters of women in all orders, including priesthood and of married priests were aired in a sort of passing way. Perhaps we know that these are amongst the most difficult things that the Council could address. Can they be on the agenda? In asking that question, the possible influence of Opus Dei groups in setting the agenda was noted and briefly discussed. 

Our current habits of consultation and discernment in the parish were also seen as somewhat deficient. In the first instance, the way to change some of these realities would not require the sort of changes that a Plenary Council need address. The absence of ongoing adult formation programs such as the Alpha program, also noted at this meeting, don’t seem to require any Plenary Council level changes. 

Many noted the absence of young folk in our Mass attendances. The connection of this well-known and painful fact to a lack of appropriate activities and liturgies was noted. One energetically put proposal was to engage our school leavers in ongoing social justice activities. Is this not Jesus in action! What would be the freedoms needed that a Plenary Council would facilitate? 

The many and difficult responses to the Royal Commission were also noted as was their impact on how we see the way forward. That is what we now set out to discern - the ways forward for all of us in this Church. 

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A Profound Theology must be made of Woman

Pope Francis said, “Mary Was More Important than the Apostles, than Bishops, Deacons and Priests.
  • The role of women in the Church is not only maternity, the mother of the family, but it’s stronger: it is, in fact, the icon of the Virgin, of Our Lady, the one who helps the Church grow!
  • But think that Our Lady is more important than the Apostles! She is more important!
  • A woman’s role in the Church must not end only as mother, as worker, limited. No! It’s something else!
  • A profound theology must be made of woman. This is what I think.”
  • In the Church, woman is more important than bishops and priests; how, it’s what we must seek to make more explicit, because theological explicitness about this is lacking. 
It is not very often that we have heard such thinking about women in our church.  How do these words of Pope Francis affect us as women of the church?What are your thoughts on the role of women in our church?  What would you like to see change in the way women influence the church?

The Language of Liturgy

We have been using the Third edition of the Roman Missal for several years now and we are getting used to the language...or are we? Are there still prayers that jar our ears?  Do we sometimes find ourselves thinking "what does that mean"?  Would we engage more with the Liturgy if the language was more adaptable?
 
On Sept 9 this year Pope Francis issued a Moto Proprio titled "Magnum Principium" which refers to the translation of liturgical texts. In doing so Pope Francis took steps towards realising his calls for 'healthy decentralisation' - at least when it comes to the  translation of texts for use in worship.  The net effect of the amendements that he has made is to shift a considerable share of the power away from the Vatican to local Bishops conferences. From here on, Pope Francis has decreed that the major responsiblity for those texts will lie with bishops conferences, with Rome only offering confirmatio at the end.
 
For those wanting to read more, Rita Ferrone gives a clearer understanding here
 
If you could speak with the Plenary Executive team about liturgy, what would you ask to be considered?